2010 APGN Open Space Meeting Reports

2010 APGN Open Space Meeting
Fair Share for a Green Future:
Issues and opportunities to make it happen

Open Space Technology (OST) is a group meeting process enabling widely diverse, even conflicted, groups and individuals, in any organization or community, to hold inspired meetings and events – for planning, dialogue, information gathering and sharing of experiences. OST harnesses and acknowledges the natural power of self-organization.

OST was invented by Harrison Owen in 1985. It has been used all over the world, with group of 10 people to over 3000 people.

On the first day of APGN congress Open Space Technology was used for participants to share information and connect interests. The OST meeting agenda is determined by the participants themselves, focusing on the theme for which, by virtue of their presence, they have great interest and passion. The following discussions are original notes written by the participants.

The Open Space approach to dialogue proved to be remarkably fitting with the core green principles of participatory democracy, respect for diversity, sustainability, nonviolence, social justice and ecological wisdom. In this open space meeting participants were encouraged to follow their passion and enable their own highest possible contribution through dialogue on topics the participants care most, liberating a great deal of creativity and possibility.

The APGN brought together a wide array of people from different countries, languages, political perspectives, experiences, ages, genders; open space allowed everyone an equal chance to have their voice be heard. By inviting all the participants to collectively create the “container” of space and context, an ideational foundation was constructed, a fabulous way to open the first day of the 3-day congress.

I highly recommend open space to other conveners of large gatherings as an effective way to initiate the sharing and learning process. The following discussions are original notes written by the participants.

Theme: Fair Share for a Green Future- issues and opportunities to make it happen

The Schedule
10:30-11:30 Opening and agenda setting
11:30-13:30 First Session( including working lunch)
13:30-15:00 Second Session
15:00-16:30 Third Session
16:30-17:00 Reading reports
17:00-17:30 Closing sharing

Facilitation team:

• Jorie Wu, IAF- certified professional facilitator , Managing Director, CP Yen Foundation
• Jackie Chang, IAF-Asia Representative, Board Director, CP Yen Foundation
• Keli Yen, Project manager, CP Yen Foundation
• Gail West, Managing Director, Institute of Cultural Affairs

• 在場的人都是最適當的人
Whoever comes is the right people.
• 不管何時開始都是最適當的時間
Whenever it starts is the right time.
• 不管發生什麼都是當時只能發生的事
Whatever happens is the only thing that could have.
• 結束時就結束了
When it’s over, it’s over.

Prepare to be surprised!

Information on Open Space Technology
www.openspaceworld.ning.com , www.openspaceworld.ning.comwww.frontier.org.tw/ost

Topic Index

Session One
1A Topic:Green Economy
1B Topic:Moratorium of the use of Death Penalty in Asia
1C Topic:Electoral Systems & Campaigning
1D Topic :Conservation / Management of Nature Resources
1E Topic :Sharing rivers across borders
1F Topic :How to launch a Green Campaign in Mainland China
1G Topic:Free Electronic Election Resources
1H Topic:The APGN Resolution on Energy and Climate Change
1I Topic:Community composting
1J Topic: Sharing/Saving the Ocean
1K Topic:From Nuclear to Renewal

Session Two

2A Topic:How to encourage the Young Green’s clubs
2B Topic:Equal Rights For Queer Groups
2C Topic:Habitat Conservation
2D Topic : Tibet: The 3rd pole
2E Topic: Whaling
2F Topic:Vegetarian Diet for Climate Justice
2G Topic : Electoral systems and Campaigning (second workshop) – ‘how to’

Session Three

3A Topic:The impact on the environment, human rights and labour rights from High-Tech industries
3B Topic:What role can APGN play to voice Chinese people real concerns?
3C Topic:Green Ways around Taiwan
3D Topic:Land use management as a tool for poverty alleviation and sustainability
3E Topic:Renewable Energy & Hydrogen
3F Topic:Fight for right of Queers in every country
3GTopic:APYGN meeting

Open Space Session Report Form

Topic Name 主題:Green Economy
Topic Number 編號:1A
Convenor 召集人:Albert Oung
Participants (including Bumble Bees) 參與人員(含蜜蜂):
Albert Oung, Yating Tai, Michelle, Alin,wei chung, Dierk, hui chuen fung
Insights 討論內容:
Green Economy.

The world needs a Green Revolution. Reviewing our global future by a new mindset>

!. Albert Oung.
– Responsibilities of being a world citizenship.
– Identifying Good and evil
– Sharing
– Values
– Positive thinking

Old vs New Economy
– hidden cost/social cost
– tax/government policy and guideline/ scheme /incentive plan
– social issues / profit oriented

Green Economy
– New Opportunity
– Equality
– New industry
– Human rights
– Social responsibility
– Ethical standard
– Sustainability
– Transparency
– Root cause
– Fair trade

Green = Standard

1. Japan cut down the wastes by 30 percent by the education. The government brings the comprehensive campaign, the goal can be reached. If the government didn’t ban the pollutes, it is hard to do. Agriculture is important nowadays. Because of the pollution, fewer places can do the agriculture.
2. Michael : Australia is also the same , shortage of water.
3. Alin. Indonesia also has the pollutions problems,
4. Wei Chung.Taiwwan needs to compete with the cheap products from south-east Asia
5. Diek : there in single to all. Information isn’t heavy. Opposition to Light pollution is a win win situation. Wrong lighting can cause cancers. Littering where you are saving energy. In green living, we should have integrated building design..
6. Only the government can set up a good comprehensive waste management.
7. Chu-Feng Hsu. Government makes policies to promotes green products, create more job opportunities.
8. Chu-feng hsu. Transformation and transition..
9. need close coordination of government to promote transparency and green products.
10. rich countries should pay more
11. Michelle. Each country should pay more for the carbon they produce to help poor countries.
12. Benrens. Global networking of sharing the technology.
13. Michelle. Rich countries should pay more for the carbon products

Topic Name 主題:Moratorium of the use of Death Penalty in Asia
Topic Number 編號:1B
Convenor 召集人:E-Ling, Chiu (Taiwan Association for Human Right)
Participants (including Bumble Bees) 參與人員(含蜜蜂):Keria Yeh, Tsung-Li Yang, Fang Chieh, Dierk von Behrens, Roy Jerusalem Cabonegro, Atty. Manuel Revilla Ravanera

Insights 討論內容:

1. Article 6.10 of the Global Green Chapter: Death penalty should be abolished in the world.
2. Execution number in Asia Pacific of 2009 is more than the rest of the world.
3. Taiwan is facing the execution pressure this year, since the new Minister of the Ministry of Justice claimed that the government will start to execute the 44 death rows this year.
4. In Asia, drug offences are still punished for the Death Penalty.
5. Pass the resolution on Moratorium of the death penalty in Asia in APGN 2010 will be solidarity of NGOs and will be an international pressure to the Taiwanese government
6. Taiwanese NGOs can lobby the legislators of Taiwan for supporting the Moratorium.
7. Taiwanese NGOs can communicate with the public.
8. Calls on Asia states which maintain drug offences punished for the death penalty to abolish imposing the death penalty on drug offences.

1. Green Party is against the death penalty.
2. There is particular need for Asia Pacific to take actions against the death penalty for this region using the inhumanity penalty most.
3. For Taiwanese government, a resolution on Moratorium of Death Penalty passed by 2010 APGN will be an international pressure to stop the execution this year.

Topic Name 主題:Electoral Systems & Campaigning
Topic Number 編號:1C
Convenor 召集人:Sue Pennicuik MP, Australia
Participants (including Bumble Bees) 參與人員(含蜜蜂):12 -15

Insights 討論內容:
Representatives from Taiwan, Indonesia, South Korea, Japan

1) Electoral systems vary greatly across the Asia Pacific region. Most countries dominated by one or two large parties. The electoral system is key to democracy and whether grass roots parties and candidates can be elected, for example, it is important to have proportional representation at all levels of government.

2) Many APGN countries are ‘democratic’ but it is ‘surface’ only and in many countries external influences and the general regional context can have profound impacts on the domestic political situation and governance.

3) We need a Green perspective in politics to solve the ecological, economic and social problems across the region, but is difficult to get Green parties up and running, to run effective campaigns and to reach the people given the above two issues

There was strong interest from the workshop participants for a mechanism to share information and experience and to gain perspective about election systems and campaigns across the region, so as to learn from and help each other.

The workshop began with an offer for people form the APGN to observe, participate and /or volunteer at the Victorian state election in November 2010.

Topic Name 主題:Conservation / Management of Nature Resources
Topic Number 編號:1D
Convenor 召集人:Green Nepal Party
Participants (including Bumble Bees) 參與人員(含蜜蜂):
Hemanta, Nem K. Manandhar, Pasang Hsiao, Marryum, Dr. Harpal Singhnegf, B K Dalit, Tenzin Norbu, Dhondup Dolma, Raju, Siva Wang, Yo Suzuki, Shobha, Michele Smith, Saira Bano, Burno Walther

Insights 討論內容:

Natural resources are being misused in Nepal. People are dying from disasters such as landslides, floods and deforestation caused by over-exploiting and government’s inappropriate policies.

Causes of Deforestation:
– Cultivation
– Timber for construction and exporting
– Unwise use of fire wood
– Lack of Awareness

Impacts of Deforestation
– Landslide
– Floods
– Soil Erosion
– Water loss
– Bio diversity
– Quality of life(human wellbeing, Livelihood)
– Pollution
– Loss of Carbon Sink

Due to the government’s policy, if people want to plant trees on their own land, they need permissions from the government. Most of the forests are belong to the government. People live near the forest don’t have the right to go into the forest.

People moving up to the mountains for better quality of living environment, they cut down more trees. We could educate people to grow trees on their lands. Invite people to go sightseeing (Ecotourism). Teach people there are other ways to make money. People tend to make imitate the way other people make money. So we need to bring community together, decide how to share resources and set a simple map then discuss in what ways is best for the area.

The government should allow people to take responsibility to grow trees and use the resources like water and sunlight as a renewable energy on their own land. The government should give people the RIGHT to help protecting the forest instead of destroying the forest just to make money.

Stakeholders(利益相關者) are taking advantages of the nature resources, they should be responsible for what they had done.

Eco-system. Money made from timber should including the price of cutting trees. We need to get the government / people to agree the eco-system.

Visions for Better and Sustainable Life
– Tell a uplifting and empowering Story
(1. if we don’t change, it will still be the same after 50 years.
2. if we change, we would have a better environment by educate people, being responsible, building communities.)
– Ecosystem Services and Human Wellbeing
– Agro Forestry, Watershed Protection, Soil Protection, Wild Life Protection
– Community Economy (Local Currency)
– Eco-Tourism
– Local Consumption
(1. Recycling
(2. Renewable Energy – EV, Solar Power, Bio-gas, Micro-hydro)
– Cooperation
– Provide Affordable and comprehensive transportation

Human live in the harmony with Nature.

3 Key Insights
1. Everything is connected. Tell an uplifting and positive story to influence and educate people.
2. Provide Alternatives
3. Community Mobility.

Topic Name 主題:Sharing rivers across borders Topic Number 編號:1E
Convenor 召集人:Yu Yin, Kevin Li
Participants (including Bumble Bees) 參與人員(含蜜蜂):thousand milesTW, Zoe, Wai-Han, Mariyum , Hui-Chuing, Hsu Chan-Chun, Pasong, Eve Chen, Yosh, Apple, Hu Mai-ya, Huck, Lin, Fiji, Raju……..

Insights 討論內容: 1. introduction and Brief:

  • Political system issue is more critical than environment issues in China
  • Get People and Companies involved

2. .How these two topics connects?

  • 13 dams on Nu river, following throw 6countries:China Burma, Thailand, Laos.
  • Dams social impacts force farmers move to high mountains.
  • Farmers become trash collectors
  • China Gov. only protect river higher than 1500meters
  • There is internal conflicts inside China Gov.

3. Separate into 2 groups

4. River crisis

  • dams on Mai-Kong River(MKR)m, one dam is 292meter high, the highest on the world.
  • Dams affect water volume and river ecosystem, causing flooding
  • Maximizing profit and territory sovereignty of each state, is the drive of dam construction.
  • People have no idea when will the river flood after dam building

Q: 2010 April 2, MKR committee was established, only down stream countries joined why don’t China join?
A: MKRC was based on US Capitalism idea for dam construction, not for river conservation. In 1995, 4 countries united for fight against US. Major fund of MKRC is from US and Europe,. China think it is a west led org.

  • Try to get green organizations in china ex. GREENPEACE into MKRC
  • Relocate focus from capitalism-communism fight to Life quality.
  • MKRC is starting open to citizen org.

Q: MKR is most international river, many river runs from Tibet Plata, invite these down stream counties meet together
A: there are two voices in China 1.protectTibet plate as third pole 2. Develop Tibet Plata as much as possible. Hydro-power specialists are not familiar with social0-environmetnt aspects.

5. solutions

  • Build river identity, replacing national-state identity.
  • Tibet Palatal has not only hydro-power, but also solar power, using solar power as alternatives
  • River has its own Life, enlarging the social –environment impact to public
  • Build network and share out
  • Build local currency system in a watershed.
  • Using small hydro-power dam, replacing big ones.(Most rivers in China are fully developed) Dam size doesn’t determines the good or bad effects to river.
  • “Sharing River across Borders” seems from privatisation and only few people gaining benefits. What if encouraging people return to the ancient life style, every individual is welcome to share river fairly.
  • Link water crisis with other crisis, especially financial crisis. Maybe launch” water currency” based on available water resources in a river watershed, across national borders. Perhaps it could avoid war on water.

3 Key insight:
1. Keep River Alive, and share equitably along the river
2. Initiative of River basin Identity.
3. Environmental, social and economical costs must be fully concerned before development projects approved.

Topic Name 主題:How to launch a Green Campaign in Mainland China
Topic Number 編號:1F
Convenor 召集人:
Participants (including Bumble Bees) 參與人員(含蜜蜂):

Insights 討論內容:

1. 中國的環境問題不能在現今的政治環境下解決,政治制度必須民主化才能解決環境/人權。
2. 為了自身利益,中共不可能讓人民決定。
3. 中國崛起,世界不在乎專制主義/獨裁,只在乎他龐大的市場。投入資本→富裕→民主(錯誤了!)→國際幫兇
4. 民主組織:海外。台灣的民主。

1. China’s environmental problems can not be resolved under the current political environment, the democratization of the political system must be able to resolve environmental / human rights.
2. For their own interests / benefits, the CCP can not let the people decide.
3. China’s rise. The world does not care about their despotism / dictatorship, only care a huge market. Invested capital → Rich → Democracy (wrong!) →International accomplice
4. Democratic organizations: Overseas. Taiwan’s democracy.
5. NGO.
6. They have nothing to lose. People’s Movement in Pakistan. → it’s different in China → UN, soft power
7. No Right. Cons. Only written in Books
8. Global voice to get way in
9. Taiwan’s democracy
10. Pakistan, still.
11. What is your suggestion to China’s Green Movement
12. What things you want
13. Religious Leader
14. Obama / Lien Chan

How to launch green Campaign in Mainland China? SURPRISE?

1. Party, no democracy.
2. My social movement is impossible.
3. NGOs don’t actually exist in China, rather only Government-Organization-“NGOs”.
4. China is a “closed society”, social movements and organizing are practically impossible.
5. Political opposition is not allowed.
6. Assembly without demonstrations. China has effective constitution, but no freedom of speech. No democracy.
7. Taiwan is a good example of democracy.
8. In China: “might is right”

Five things wish list:
1. Individual empowerment/global empowerment.
2. Freedom of speech
3. NGO independence
4. Media independence.
5. Free communication tools (restricted media)
6. Effective religious leaders/scholars.

1. Exchange/share experience through youth, and university associations.
2. International networks to support Chinese people both in and outside of China.
3. Taiwan and Japan should take the lead.
4. Share ideas with the youth in universities.
5. International support.

  • The Chinese people want democracy. But the Chinese government does not allow for any independent organizations to advocate for human rights and environmental rights.
  • In this conference (APGN) we need to make an articulate and collective stance on China.
  • The Green movement can serve as a wedge into social change in China.

3 Key Insights:
1. APGN members to serve as a Global voice for people of China.
2. Local stakeholders in China (NGOs, civil society, green movement individuals) are important, and would benefit from greater support for their continued development.
3. “Welcome to Reality” Inside & Outside China.

Topic Name 主題:Free Electronic Election Resources
Topic Number 編號:1 G
Convenor 召集人:Dierk von Behrens (Available all Conference from convenor @ Australian Desk)
Participants (including Bumble Bees) 參與人員(含蜜蜂):Tony Yang (Judicial Reform Foundation), Keira Yeh, Eeling Chou (Taiwan Association for Human Rights), Jenchun HSIEH and Fany Chieh (Taiwan Alliance to End the Death Penalty), Suzie Yee Show (Fiji Green Party), Wei_Han, Wang (Taiwan ), Brigitte BROZIO (Treasurer of the Greens (Verts) of the Middle Pyrenees, Council of the National Interregional Greens (VERTS)), Prof, YANG, Sung-Ho (Head Professor, Graduate School of Mass Communication & P. R., Konkuk University) and Sangeeth (India). This list is incomplete. Others heard about and some accepted copies of the offered documentation.

Insights 討論內容:

To achieve effective political representation for Green ideas and policies, while meeting democratic ideals, we should aim for electoral systems with the following features:
. Multimember electorates
. Preferential voting system
. Proportional voting system

Democracy International (democracyinternational.com) is an organisation that focuses on voting systems world-wide. Their resources are highly respected and useful for all those with green inclinations. A range of relevant documents, mostly from that source, is available at no cost – please see folder of election resources saved on this drive.

This session would appreciate the newly established Global Greens Secretary publicising the availability of free technological resources including, but not limited to, the attached, by way of the Global Greens Newsletter.

Topic Name 主題:The APGN resolution on Energy and Climate change
Topic Number 編號:1H
Convenor 召集人:Luke Dodds
Participants (including Bumble Bees) 參與人員(含蜜蜂):

Insights 討論內容:

3 key insights

  • Environmental movement is also a cooperation movement
  • Overwhelming importance of education\: if this generation can’t do it, maybe next generation can
  • How much is enough? Can’t keep thinking “my turn to pollute”

Topic Name 主題:Community composting
Topic Number 編號:1I
Convenor 召集人:Peter Morehead
Participants (including Bumble Bees) 參與人員(含蜜蜂):Maggie, Peter, Sangeeth, Tammy, Gail, 陳玉子,蔣沛志

Insights 討論內容:

  • Motivation(why join this open space):
  • Want to know more about the composting.
  • Promote community composting.
  • Hope can find a good way to recycle those garbage that human make
  • Why Peter and 玉子 participate community composting?
  • Hope the resources can be recycles, and makes plants more health.
  • The people do the community composting as a career are easier than other people to accept composting things, because they know how to make composting won’t smell stinky. For example, people can choose most appropriate technology to do. Like “compost tumbler” (滾筒式堆肥) is a good way.
  • How to do in apartment?
  • Different technology for small/community systems:

1. Worms
2. Barrels
3. Bins I
4. Indian household stacking

  • Urban (not much composting) / rural systems
    Rural is fully used of composting
    Worm technology – who ones?
  • Complicated food waste? –Different systems for different situations, lots of communication, education, passionate site minders
  • Any “public” TV teaching opportunities?
    Earth passengers arrange demos
  • Food waste/ compost/ garbage=if it were seen as a resource?
  • Conclusions:

1. Need to set up system to use compost, create the needs
2. Need to let people know why compost-dispel myth –educate about composting technology, setting up public demonstrations.
3. Make it easy for community members, select most appropriate technology

Topic Name 主題: Sharing/Saving the Ocean
Topic Number 編號: 1J Room 401
Convenor 召集人: Marian Angele
Participants (including Bumble Bees) 參與人員(含蜜蜂): Kumi Kato and ______________

Insights 討論內容:

1. We need to learn nature’s wisdom, educate ourselves to see it, and pass it on to others. Women divers in Japan had insight into the ocean (lunar calendar, living in rhythm with the ocean. They said the ocean disciplines us, decides everything for us; people are born when the tide comes in, and die when the tide goes out). So much is unknown to us about the ocean. We need to learn more.

2. We need to create educational packages of empowering stories; stories of success to pass on information to others. As educators we need good, inspiring materials. We need to teach creativity, imagination. We need to be aware of media distortion of information. We talked about ted.com/DVDs/stories. Gregory Colbert, Whale dreaming, and Earthlings Bio mimicry is a new concept for using nature as a guide to problem solving when we build, construct, live, as a teacher of how to live green, naturally.
(Janine Benyus on ted.com)

3. Some of the major problems facing the ocean include: 1) oil drilling ( it is not just the oil but the water that is brought up with the oil, separated from the oil and dumped into the ocean which is destroying marine life, raising water temperature, changing the DNA of ocean life 2) the garbage gyres (one is larger than the size of Texas) that are destroying ocean life, 3) over fishing 4) black areas, lacking oxygen in the ocean 5) phisteria, a new virulent virus attacking fish (largest fish kill in history along Atlantic seaboard 6)whaling and killing of dolphins. We need to find ways to move forward and create alternatives to the way we are doing things now. Positive alternatives rather than just pointing out what is wrong (such as finding other ways to employ retired people in Japan who depend on maintaining the “research industry” for whaling, new industries for communities who rely on harvesting dolphins as their livelihood.

Topic Name 主題:From Nuclear to Renewal
Topic Number 編號:1K(301)
Convenor 召集人:Kotomi
Participants (including Bumble Bees) 參與人員(含蜜蜂):

Insights 討論內容:

Gong Liao Nuclear Power Plant

Safety review by third party with govt fund and done by scientists around the world.
-fund? scientist? who to choose the scientists? Any international NGO or organization jump in to mitigate?
IAEA has not helped Taiwan Officially since Taiwan is not a member of UN.
Taiwanese Nuclear Power Plants is a hybrid of multinational Nuclear Power plant design.

Is there an alternative renewable source to replace Nuclear Power that is already available.
Is there any other power company other than Taipower?
No. There is only one power company.
Taiwanese energy generation technology are all imported from other countries.
Near the Nuclear Power plant there is an undersea fault line prone to earthquakes.
Which is a common problem with Nuclear Power plant shared with Japan and Korea.

We want to make a network between Southeast Asia/North East Asia or Asia Pacific on Nuclear Issue.

Have there been efforts made to include Taiwan into such network that has already existed.

Taiwan has NNAF connection with countries such as Japan and Korea and Philippines and Indonesia.

From this workshop we can make a network for Activist and NGO.
We can take turns holding workshops on such issue, although money may be an issue.

Internet could be an alternative to such workshop (facebook, Skype and Google group?).
To share insights of different companies on such platform.]

India Nu Power Plant count is 5 (not sure).

We can invite countries which do not yet have nuclear power plants.

For Sri Lanka, nuclear power plant can benefit the country economically and socially but not
environmentally. And those experiences from countries that already have nuclear power plants
can be used for Sri Lanka people to evaluate whether to adopt to Nuclear Power plants.]

Can any one share experience of developing such network?

Govts can reach current energy needs for developing countries, some argues.
Needs evidence for counter arguments.
And how to reduce power price
Other sources of energy more expensive??
Those info are very precious for the developing countries as they usually don’t get as much info
on these issues.

What can Taiwan offer, in terms of energy production…

USA has 65 nuclear power plant, but no new nuclear power plant in 30 years.

Scare tactics is effective to stop further proliferation of Nu power.
One melted in New jersey.

Increase in renewable resource in USA?

In the face of reduce emissions, Nuclear Power plant production talk make a comeback.
Selecting between fuel power plant and Nuclear power plant.

The speed/amount of power sources?

Mr. Chu are not willing to pay extra for greener energy.

If you want to invest in alternative is too expensive compared to fuel.

When Construction of nuclear plant four was to be shut down, AIT in Taiwan warned Taiwanese govt
not to do so. Otherwise trading agreements might be jeopardized and weapon will be not sold to Taiwan.


Information sharing, make network. What kind of info?
Sometimes info should be cultivate. Efforts should be made to dig out info, such as public opinions.
Run our own questionnaires. Takes money though.->radio/media company is an option.

More resources are needed, scientists, money, media….
Make friends who can connect those areas of professions together, to guide the right information to
to the right hands. Ready made information do not exist so far.

International organizations should be put into consideration as such issue is not only domestic issue
but international as well. Such as reprocessed nuclear material transportation around the world.

IAEA, Australian Former minister, Japan Former Minister ICME
A meeting will take place tomorrow in NY.
Connect with more international organizations.
Washington also has such information every year.

Renewable Energy info should be cultivated as well. Cost effective arguments need to be investigated
deeper and further as well as democratic and just energy production method .

Key people in Nuclear Power plant. Gong Liao power plant next week trip is available next Monday.

Renewable sources are more localized.

Better differentiate 1 how to help the situation with Gong Liam. Can we hear more about what kind of
support we need
2. how to do the network for information sharing. Some Japanese info are ready. Korean info are ready too.
Translation of the info is another issue.

Take san has administered Geological Analysis in Taiwan earlier associated with Gong Liam Power Plant
Such investigation is still underway.

Third party scientists needs. The Third party needs to have enough international authority and reputation so that their opinions can be well regarded, to oppose Taipower`s opinions that are usually biased.

Topic Name 主題:如何催生小綠人青少年社團 How to encourage the Young Green’s clubs.
Topic Number 編號:2A
Convenor 召集人:
Participants (including Bumble Bees) 參與人員(含蜜蜂):

Insights 討論內容:
Teenagers in Eastern countries hardly devoted themselves in clubs because of the pressure of pursuing higher education.
The promotion of Environmental Education Law will include the regulation of schools basic teaching and activity hours and the continuous attention to teenagers.
The promotion of environmental education in public sectors is focusing more on quantity, especially on Parent-child activity and children and less on the field of teenagers, which could cause difficulties in promoting Teenager’s clubs.
Teenagers have less control over things around themselves. However, with achieving goals by participating in environmental activities and being encouraged incrementally, they could gain more support from their parents.

The promotion of environmental education should be put into practice in daily life.
Teenagers should not be forgotten in the act group of environmental education? We have the duty to bring them into our team. But how should we do? We need more people advice.
Creating a platform, enhancing self-confidence and attract teenagers. Make exits of Young Green’s clubs as possible.

Topic Name 主題:Equal Rights For Queer Groups
Topic Number 編號:2B
Convenor 召集人:Aria
Participants (including Bumble Bees) 參與人員(含蜜蜂):Chung-Ming, Isaac, Shawn Yen, Shih-Wei, Eve Chen, Aira, Pia

Insights 討論內容:

  • Help each kind of Queers (Disability)
  • CEDAW convention, for example, has some mechanism for enforcement of the convention. If we have a LGBT convention, we might open more chances of international cooperation between LGBT groups.
  • Create a participation in NGO.
  • Diversity of family form changing Civil law to include more kinds of family, not only about LGBT.
  • Gender-equality in school educate our children to respect diversity.
  • Domitory of school don’t want any sexual activity. It needs gender natural place.
  • Unfriendly environment make brother not to come out.
  • Horrasment. Express the information to the LGBTs that how will(can) they get help. Search(discover) them!
  • Work betwwn associations and groups. Release the lower price(rate) of buying house for Youth for Lgbt. In Taiwn, the discrimination appears in LGBT seriously when renting a house. DO NOT MAKE HOUSE A PRODUCT!
  • Minorities Accepted using the resourcesfrom government.
  • Single or gay people should be alowed to rent house of government, government should use the rent to help other people need to be help and has the priority to choose.


  • Make public distribution fairer.
  • Do more research about LGBT to create an international agende.
  • There should be continous and constant coordination among queer groups worldwide because there is diversity between queers in different countries.

Topic Name 主題:Habitat Conservation
Topic Number 編號:2C
Convenor 召集人:Michele Smith
Participants (including Bumble Bees) 參與人員(含蜜蜂):Taiwan, Fiji. Philippines, Papua New Guinea, Australia, United States

Insights 討論內容:

National parks
– We must recognise the importance of reserves of natural habitat to allow other species to continue to evolve over long time frames.
– There is a need to put political pressure on governments and corporations to respect and preserve land for natural habitat.
– W need to address the threat of deforestation on biodiversity by preventing further land clearing – the APGN needs to be vigilant about this and lobby the relevant authorities.

Pollution of natural habitats and behaviour of trans-national corporations
– Land, rivers and marine areas are polluted by multinationals including mining companies.
– The challenge for the APGN Greens is to develop ways to ensure that there is better scrutiny (and reporting) of corporate behaviour and to implement systems such as
– polluter pays for communities that have been devastated such as in the Philippines and Papua New Guinea
– deposit systems whereby a mining companies set aside funds for cleanup before the development proceeds.
– requiring comprehensive and independent Environmental Impact Assessments that are subject to legal consequences.
– We need to tackle corruption in corporate deals.

Land use management as a tool for poverty alleviation and sustainability.
– There is a need for social justice considerations to be included in land use planning, with attention to land ownership and community consent.
– Health outcomes must be a priority in land use planning.
– Overpopulation is a big threat to habitat conservation and planning processes must protect natural ecosystems.
– The challenge is implementing, monitoring and reporting on land use systems and avoiding corruption in land use deals.

We need to get more Greens into Governments, including good women and men!

Topic Name 主題:Tibet: The 3rd pole
Topic Number 編號:2D
Convenor 召集人:Tenzin Norbu
Participants (including Bumble Bees) 參與人員(含蜜蜂):

Insights 討論內容:

  • In addition to the two poles, Tibet (3rd pole) is also vulnerable to C.C.
  • Implications for numerous downstream countries.
  • Indus, Bhramaputra, Mekong, Yangtze, Yellow salween, Kosi (10 major rivers).
  • Water towers of Asia
  • Barometer of Asia.
  • Largest resource of freshwater aside from the 2 poles.

– more than 86,000 glaciers.
-cases flooding → drought d/stream
– Melting of permafrost (85% of plateau)
– creates a carbon feedback, releases CO2, NO2
– problems for infrastructure maintenance.
– Temperature rise 10 times higher in Tibet than global average.
– Asian monsoon
– warm plateau creates unseasonal rain/ monsoon in S. Asia.
CTA tries to encourage community participation, transparency
– limited capacity.“Conservation Refugees” created by nomadic resettlement.
– bss of ancestral knowledge.
Information available to policy-makers, but poor decisions continues to be made.
NaO3, activists raise these issues in China now.
– examples of public announcements in communities threatening the against dissent, accused of challenging development agenda.
Opportunity to create downstream coalitions esp. in South Asia.

3 Key Insights
1. Tibet’s environment needs to be cared for the save of the Asian community.
2. Encourage collaboration among downstream countries to voice concern about Tibet’s environment.
3. Chinese NAO/ activist increasingly discuss Tibet’s environment, however the space continues to be limited.

Topic Name 主題: Whaling
Topic Number 編號:2E
Convenor 召集人:Russell Norman
Participants (including Bumble Bees) 參與人員(含蜜蜂):

Insights 討論內容:
Common ground explored around a potential resolution from APGN calling for Antenct9ca and its waters to be made a world Heritage Area.

Topic Name 主題:Vegetarian Diet for Climate Justice
Topic Number 編號:2F
Convenor 召集人:賴芬蘭
Participants (including Bumble Bees) 參與人員(含蜜蜂):胡雅美(主婦聯盟)、曾慧雯、蔡素蘭(千里步道)、羅允佳(Taiwan Watch)、奧山妙子(Green Japan)、陳建歷(屏東環盟)

Insights 討論內容:
I. Statement of the Problem
Last year, the goal of the COP 15 held in Copenhagen was originally to achieve a convention, however, unfortunately, failed. Because poor countries preferred economic development so they gave up CO2 reduction. The Food and Agriculture Organization (FAO) made a report saying that 18% of global warming was resulted from the livestock industry. However, today, vegetarian still remains to be an issue of morality unlike CO2 reduction have a very clear and specific target. Livestock industry has been linked to deforestation for that in Amazon rainforest, people continues to cut off rainforest for more field to grow crops for those stockpiles.
In China, the consumption per capita of meat grows 8 times of the amount of 1950s which equals to 5.2 kilograms per capita. In the U.S., the amount is more than 120 kilograms. As it is known to us that the environment of breeding livestock is grave, tiny space for livestock. In fact, it has a lot to do with water pollution. So, we need to discuss how to we achieve the target of reducing the consumption of meat to half of today. The strategy we adopt matters.

II. Discussion
Ms. Tsai from 主婦聯盟 said that we need to think about how we are going to make vegetarian meals more delicious and promotion of organic farming.
Nowadays, half of the world population consumes meat, most of which are rich countries, while the rest of the people seldom consume meat due to poverty. Because rich countries can get cheap meat and meat is regarded as symbol of wealth. One of the participants from Japan, 奧山妙子 said that 50 years ago, nobody consumed meat, while today Japanese go on vegetarian diet for weight losing not for climate change. In the past, vegetarians are shy and embarrassed but today they should speak up.
Ms. Tsao from 千里步道: In the future, every food production should print carbon footprint, informing consumers of not just calories.
Mr. Chen from Ping Dong環盟said, we need to take the culture of meat consumption into consideration. Today, we have stuck to the myth, that globalization represents Americanization. Pursuing American lifestyle makes us over consume resources. We appeal to localization to let people know that we can live well locally.
In Taiwan, we seldom get to know the cruelty of breeding livestock. Actually, we need to begin the movement from the side of consumers. Taiwan is possesses the biggest proportion of vegetarians among rich countries. When the minister of the environmental protection, Mr. Young, visited the Green Party, he was told to add vegetarian as one of the ten plans to carbon reduction.
Mr. Chen said, 50 years ago, there were no industrialized livestock industry in Taiwan.
As a matter of fact, subsidizing and damping are the main causes of starvation in the third world so we need to pursue fair trade. In Taiwan, 70% of food is imported.
Mr. Chen said, Buddhist and Confucius play key role in Asia. In Japan, they are less influenced by Buddhism. There is a kind of people called fish-vegetarian, which means they don’t eat meat but they still eat fish.
Actually, fish is also a serious environmental problem because of over fishing. Some may argue that we can breed fish instead of catching them. But the problem is the way we fish also harms the environment. They use amino acid to breed the fish.
In Taiwan, it is awkward during festivals people, no matter vegetarian or not, worship altars with meat. Every citizen does not rely on government or enterprise to cut CO2.
Some people living on selling meat worry that they will lose jobs if they stop selling meat. But actually, we need to help them transform.

III. Proposal
【Workshop名稱】the name of the workshop
From Taipei to Cancun從台北到坎昆
【Workshop目的】 the aim of the workshop
From the point of view of Asia Pacific Area to achieve the goal of 50% reduction of global meat consuming
Vegetarian diet against global warming campaigns in Taiwan, makes even the government participate in it. Although we believe 50% reduction of meat consuming in global rich countries is a sensible goal. But if we don’t have a method to make it work, the result can be limited. When there’s no progress in the argument of Copenhagen and Bonn’s conference, vegetarian diet against global warming campaign is hoping to bring up more concrete carbon reducing strategies from sustainable point of view, and to fit in with fair justice principles. Because the technique and expenses in the need of veg. diet is much less than changing industry construction, transport system, electricity system. But if we want to include this claim into Cancun conference (COP16) at end of the year or the conference in south Africa(COP17) next year, it needs strategies and action scheme so that it can be discussed seriously and take action. Because the main issue of APGN2010 is fair share, so we hope to put the veg. diet political claim into APGN2010. If we discuss and conclude the action strategy dealing with climate change of Asian pacific Area after Copenhagen, let the political policies of every country brought back from green party, use the point of view of Asian pacific area and make it become the claim and action of global green party, the goal of 50% reduction of meat consuming could possibly be achievable.


Topic Name 主題:Electoral systems and Campaigning (second workshop) – ‘how to’
Topic Number 編號:2G
Convenor 召集人:Sue Pennicuik MP, Australia
Participants (including Bumble Bees) 參與人員(含蜜蜂):from Korea, Taiwan, Japan and Sri Lanka

Insights 討論內容:
1) Participants learnt a lot about the electoral systems in each country represented at the workshops from the discussions at the workshop and already found some of the information useful and transferable to their context. This workshop was focussed on how to make sure this information sharing occurs.

2) The APGN Strategy and Coordinating Group should prioritise a mechanism to share information and experience of the different electoral systems and campaign strategies across the APGN to help Green parties and organisation to increase democracy in electoral systems across the APGN countries

3) The Japan / Korea civil society discussion meeting in October should look at inviting participation from other APGN countries aiming for a yearly meeting hosted by a different country each year. The civil society meeting is concerned with how to give people a voice in the political system. The people’s voices are weak at the moment and we need powerful electoral systems across the APGN countries to give voice to the people at the grass roots.

Topic Name 主題:The impact on the environment, human rights and labour rights from High-Tech industries
Topic Number 編號:3A
Convenor 召集人:Lemon Ying Dah Wong
Participants (including Bumble Bees) 參與人員(含蜜蜂):Amy..

Insights 討論內容:

  • The negative impact on the environments from the high-tech industries is unbelievable high
  • Yong Fast Opto Electronics (supplier of HTC, Sam Sung and LG, Google) violated the labour law such as abusing the child labours, excessive overtime working hours up to 100 hours a month
  • Calls for these high-tech industries to take responsibility for the labour rights and pollution
  • States in Asia should make an universal standard on these high-tech companies
  • Employees didn’t have enough protection when they deal with these toxic solutions.

3 key insights

  1. negligence and violation on the environmental and labour laws is common an rampant
  2. the corporation shall respect the environmental and labour law to make the corporations and the environment sustainable
  3. the government shall enforce the law to monitor the social and environmental impact, to stop the human rights and labour rights violation.

Topic Name 主題:What role can APGN play to voice Chinese people real concerns?
Topic Number 編號:3B
Convenor 召集人:Mari
Participants (including Bumble Bees) 參與人員(含蜜蜂):
Dr. Harpal Singhneji, Kuroshio Ocean, Lai su lan, Wei-han, Huck Lin, Maggie Chiu, Mao zing, Apple
Insights 討論內容:

  • Realize responsibility-at governmental level
  • Make statement (world opinion)
  • Due to huge economic giant
  • Chinese government is very sensitive to APGN. The media is influenced by the government
  • Immigration issue
  • Young people should change their mind. Young people should bring the democratic ideas back to China
  • \no choice for people in electoral system. Unqualified people are elected.

3 key insights
1. realize responsibility at government level
2. making a statement is always good
3. time will come. It’s never too late.

Topic Name 主題:Green Ways around Taiwan
Topic Number 編號:3C
Convenor 召集人:Tori 慧雯
Participants (including Bumble Bees) 參與人員(含蜜蜂):
戴雅婷 蔡素蘭 洪輝祥 蕭德中 徐美女 蔡月美 胡雅美 周淑惠 戴吾明 陳嘉宏 汪澤先 Siva Wang
Insights 討論內容:
  由下而上,建立一個環保的步道,以現有的道路為主,減少再開發。途經鄉村蜿蜒小徑,為鄉村帶來小規模經濟。在Google Earth上標出小路。10月25日將公佈千里步道。

Thousand-Mile Trait:
From bottom to top, the establishment of a green trail to the existing main roads to reduce the re-development. We set up winding paths through villages, bringing a small economy for the village. The path are marked on Google Earth. October 25 Thousand-Mile Trait will be announced.


Teacher Hong:
Green farmers family, must be environmentally friendly from the very beginning. Taiwan’s organic certification has problems. Hualien County has excessively pumping underground water, causing subsidence. Taiwan has over pumped 2.5 billion tons underground water every year. And Pingtung’s aquaculture has been stealing sea water and electricity. The county government didn’t do anything for it. They need to set up Sea desalination factory reduce underground water pumping.

  1.從個人內部開始  2.向社區媽媽/學校宣導  3.消費者與農民合作社(了解農產品來源)
  4.督促政府和農會(綠色產購及環保標章) 5.國內糧食體系(剝削農民,菜賤價出售卻只是吸客手段)

Teacher Hu:
1. Start a green life from individuals 2. Publicize to mothers and schools
3. Cooperation between Consumers and farmers (about agricultural sources)
4. Urge the Government 5. Domestic food system (exploitation of farmers, food sold at cheap prices to attract customers, but only a excuse to let them buy those products which are not green.)
6. Small farmer Market


Teacher Tsai:
Arouse interest in teachers and combine with school lessons. Provide students a chance to get involved in environmental issues.


  1.騎腳踏車  2.請當地人解說  3.小農呈現  4.學校:家長不接送孩子。以單車或步行上下學 5.社區發展自己的好並向外推廣

Topic Name 主題:Land use management as a tool for poverty alleviation and sustainability
Topic Number 編號: 3D
Convenor 召集人:Suzie Fiji
Participants (including Bumble Bees) 參與人員(含蜜蜂):
Suzi, yee show, lyn, Rosalina liu, tsai cheng yueh, Tsai-di chang, Asia li, Brightte Brozia, Chan-chuan Hsu, Albert oung, Keli yen, marrian

  • Issues- agricultural land displacement to tourism/conservation/mining, etc
  • In Fiji the main agricultural industry was sugar, but soon it was replaced by tourism. We have put all our eggs in one basket, but due to political crisis the tourism has decreased, this leads to poverty which leads to greater environmental degradation.
  • Tourism is using highly fertile land rather than utilizing the land for agriculture.
  • In the Philippines there is a need for reliable zoning& land use plan. Our problem is overlapping land-use, i.e. same land is labelled “priority” conservation”, “priority agriculture “, and “ priority ,mining”.
  • The same scenario exists in Taiwan
  • A reconciliation needs to occur between traditional and modern land-use concepts .Therefore it is important to emphasize the cultural value of land areas.
  • Smaller groups are in the position to prove their relationship with the land is a legitimate way of life
  • Seems what is need is a way to allow various types of relationship to the land to cohabitate
  • Sounds like we are talking about individual vs. collective rights. If people have elected a gov’t they must accept the laws and management that is created by the gov’t
  • In the Philippines the indigenous people applied to international bodies to exert presser on the national gov’t. This was successful
  • The need is to strengthen the rights’ holders.
  • Self governance seems to bean effective approach to resolving these challenges. By locals creating their own structures they can articulate their positions and self-determination in a way that can integrate with larger institutions.
  • I just visited an aboriginal village yesterday and saw how they have developed their agriculture in a way that sustains their own village livelihoods. In order to pressure biodiversity, we must preserve cultural diversity.
  • Land use management must consider the impacts of climate change
  • Different philosophy to advance alternatives to land use policies. Need multiple solutions
  • Slowing down is acceptable as well
  • Permaculture: using natural designs for land use
  • Fiji problem” once lost the old way of living, when the crisis come, local people lost everything, no food, agricultural technics are lost
  • Local people has the priority to participate the land use management decision
  • Promote simple life style

3 Key Insights
1. We must take a holistic approach in evaluating a resource, particularly land- not just the economic value but also it’s environmental and cultural values
2. Local people be part of land use planning and their issues be made a priority
3. The need to promote a simple life style and consume within the carrying capacity of our environment.

Topic Name 主題:Renewable Energy & Hydrogen
Topic Number 編號:3E
Convenor 召集人: Yoshihiro Kanematsu from NGO Renewable Hydrogen Network (Japan)
Participants (including Bumble Bees) 參與人員(含蜜蜂):Chooneui Ham, Kenta Soga, Nem K Mahandhar(NEPAL GREEN PARTY) + 5 people more

Insights 討論內容:
1. Energy independence is important
To develop sustainable community, where people respect local culture and physiological needs, our world should be more decentralized and then holistically connected.
2. Then hydrogen is a simple solution.
Hydrogen can be produced anywhere in the world and leaves only water behind when it is used, while fossil fuel is resource limited and emits CO2. So hydrogen has been called “people’s fuel” and the democratic form of energy. Finally, hydrogen accelerates renewable energy because hydrogen complements weak points of intermitted renewable energy and it increases applications as not only electricity but heating homes, fuel for transportation and hydrogen compounds like fertilizer for farming.
3. Please remember this. Renewable energy and hydrogen are “inseparable friends”.
Participants are very interested in advocating renewable energy but not so many people realize a potential of Hydrogen. Let’s share ideas about renewable energy and hydrogen in open source model like Creative Commons (or we can say “Renewable Energy Commons”).

Topic Name 主題:Fight for right of Queers in every country
Topic Number 編號:3F
Convenor 召集人:Isaac
Participants (including Bumble Bees) 參與人員(含蜜蜂):

Insights 討論內容:

1. Unite the queer and groups and organizations between countries in Asia by each issues of each kind of queers.
2. In order to make the right policy and law to influence and alter the atmosphere of society, we need a queer politician.
3. We need more delicate understanding of female right issues and LGBT issues, for some of the two categories is overlapping, but in some aspect, they’re different.

Topic Name 主題:APYGN meeting
Topic Number 編號:3G
Convenor 召集人:
Participants (including Bumble Bees) 參與人員(含蜜蜂):

Insights 討論內容:

3 key insights:
1. The APYGN agreed to be to the youth com of the APGN and the Asia Pacific community o the Global Young Greens (GYG)
2. The APYGN adopted it’s constitution –the constitution is the be ??? to all APYGN members and A{GN members.
3. What the APYGN intends to do:

  • To have a master list of members and to activate the email list and social networking sites
  • Circulating the constitution to all APGN member groups as encouragement to establish a youth wing( If it doesn’t exist) and nominate this group of youth a youth representative to the APYGN.

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